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Why There is a Need for Updation of Pension for Bankers At the time of Every Settlement
There has been a demand from the retired pension optees for long that banks are not revising their pension at the time of Bipartite Settlements. The next settlement is due wef 01/11/2012. Thus, we have been receiving number of representations wherein the option optees have been requesting for starting a campaign to garner support for this issue so that this can be taken up in a big way at the time of next bipartite settlement. We will be uploading the mails received from our readers in this respect.
nraosurya1949@gmail.com While pensions of Central Government pensioners, State Government Pensioners and armed personal are revised every time their salaries are revised, why should Bank Pensioners be deprived of the same? In the present days of high inflation, retaining the same amount of pensions without revising throws the senior citizens to much starvation. Is it the way to treat the Senior Citizens retired from Banks? Are they not like the senior citizens retired from central / State Government services. Further please verify the variation in the amount pension drawn by a retired General Manager retired a decade ago and a newly retired clerk of a Bank.
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ramachandramenon@yahoo.com
I retired as a
Scale III officer with effect from 1/3/1995.
Recently the
parliamentary committee attached Defense department recommended
for one rank one pension for all defense personnel. Is there
any likelyhood of the pension of bank employees being revised.
Is there any court case filed by anybody pending in the courts?
Please indicate in your website.
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umeshraval@gmail.com Sir,
IBA & all bank union Must update the pension
of retired bankers at the time of bi parted settlement. Looking to
the
high rise in the prices of all daily
routine. The cost of all type of medical expenditures are
increasing. So it must start from Nov 2012
Regards
Umesh Raval
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subramaniancb@yahoo.co.in Every central government pensioner is getting revision whenever revision of salary takes place. The persons who have retired in early 70s are getting fatty pension which they would not have even dreamt of. In fact at the time of their retirement some of them would not have drawn a four figure salary. Thanks to the salary revision every ten years, now some of the retirees of 1970s are getting five figure pension. When government employees who do not contribute much to the growth of economy, the growth engines viz. Banking industry employees should get revision of pension without their asking for it. The natgionalised banks industry are not only a growth engines, they also make profits and contribute part of their profits to the government by way of dividend. Even the salary level of senior management staff of banks are downgraded. General Manager’s salary is downgraded to the level of joint secretary, whereas the responsibilities of even a Scale III Senior Manager of a Bank is much more than that of a joint secretary in government.
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pmadhavadas@gmail.com I am a retired bank officer and my opinion is that banker's pension should be updated at the time of every revision of salary for serving bank staff
as in the case of Central/State governmental
staffs/ Army staffs and this should be taken up with IBA atleast
in the next wage revision talks
t.sivadasan
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ashok goel <ashokgoel47@in.com>
Why There is a Need for Updation of Pension
for Bankers At the time of Every Settlement Thanks |
BANKS MADE
VARIOUS UNEQUALS WITHIN EQUALS
PENSION
TO BANK EMPLOYEES
STUFF FULL OF MIRACLES.
NUMEROUS TIMES THE LABOUR JURISPRUDENCE OF THE
COUNTRY URGED THE STATE AND OTHERS NOT TO DIFFERENTIATE WITH IN
EQUALLY SITUATED PERSONS IN THE COUNTRY
THERE ARE FOLLOWING TYPES OF CAGES AND CELLS
CREATED FOR PENSIONERS IN BANKS ARE AS UNDER.
1. PRE 1.1.18986 RETIREES
2. RETIREES BETWEEN 1.1.1986 TO 31.10.1992/
30.06.1993.
3. RETIREES FROM 1.11.1992 TO 31.03.1998
4. RETIREES FROM 1.4.1998 TO 31.10.2002.
5. RETIREES FROM 1.11.2002 TO 31.10.2007
6. RETIREES FROM 1.11.2007
.
7. NEW OPTEES AS PER AGREEMENT OF 27.04.2010 UNDER
RETIRED CATEGORY.
8. NEW OPTEES AS PER AGREEMENT OF 27.04.2010 UNDER
SUB CATEGORY EXISTING EMPLOEES.
THESE ARE THE PENSIONERS WHO WERE MADE UNEQUALS
WITHIN EQUALS.
KINDLY ASSESS THE NECESSITY FOR SUCH UNJUST
DIVISION.
PENSIONER MEANS PENSIONER AND CANNOT BE UNDERLINED
BY ANY MARK ON THEIR HEADS.
.
A. THERE IS NO UPWARD REVISION SINCE THAN FOR ABOUT
18 YEARS. THERE ARE 4 STAGES AS FOLLOWS FOR DEARNESS
RELIEF.
.
BASIC PENSION UPTO RS. 1250 PM.
……………………..FROM RS. 1251 TO RS. 2000PM.
……………………..FROM RS. 2001 TO RS. 2130 PM.
……………………..ABOVE RS. 2130 PM.
THERE IS NO UPWARD REVISION FOR 18 YEARS.
THERE 4 TIERS BY WHICH DR IS PAYABLE.
BASIC PENSION UPTO RS.2400
PM.
…………………….FROM RS. 2401 TO RS. 3850 PM.
…………………….FROM RS. 3851 TO RS. 4100 PM.
…………………….ABOVE RS. 4100 PM.
THESE RETIREES ARE GETTING COMMUTATION BY MERGING
1616 INDEX WHEREAS THEY WERE DRAWING ACTUL SALARY BY MERGING 1684
INDEX. THOUGH
SINCE 1.05.2005 THE RETIREES ARE UNDER THIS GROUP
ARE GETTING DA AFTER MERGER 1684 INDEX.
THESE GROUP LOST THEIR REVISED BASIC PENSION FROM
1.4.1998 TO 30.04.2005 BEING DIFFERENCE IN 1684-1616= 68 POINTS OF
INDEX. FOR ABOUT 6.5 YEARS.
THIS CATEGORY STILL COULD NOT GET THEIR REVISED
VALUE OF COMMUTATION. EVEN THEY ARE NOW DRAWING PENSION AT 1684
INDEX BUT ENJOYING COMMUTATION ONLY ON 1616 POINTS.
IT IS NOT EASY TO REMEMBER THESE ANAMOLIES. NOW
THE MADRASHIGH COURT ON 28.6.2011
DECIDED THAT RETIREES UNDER THIS CATEGORY are ENTITLED
BASIC PENSION AND COMMUTATION BY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT 1684 INDEX.
BECAUSE THIS WAS THE BASIC SALARY WAS DRAWING BY THEM WHILE IN
SERVICE. HIGH COURT GIVEN 12 WEEKS TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION. HERE
IT IS HUMBLY URGED TO GOVT./IBA/UNIONS TO URGE THAT THE ORDERS OF
THE MADRAS HIGH COURT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
THERE IS NO UPWARD REVISION OF THEIR PENSION FOR 13
YEARS NOT ON A SINGLE TIME.
THERE ARE 8 TIERS OF DA IN THIS CATEGORY.
RETIREES UNDER THIS CATEGORY ARE DRAWN DA FROM
1.4.1998 TO 30.04.2005 BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SLABS.
BASIC PENSION UP TO RS.3380 PM.
……………………….FROM RS. 3381 TO 5420
………………………..FROM RS. 5421 TO RS. 5770 PM.
………………………..ABOVE RS. 5770 PM.
SEE AGAIN THE MIRACLE IN
GRANTING DA.
THE ABOVE CATEGORY IS PRESENTLY DRAWING DA FROM
1.05.2005 AS FOLLOWS.
BASIC PENSION UO TO RS. 3550 PM.
……………………….FROM RS. 3551 TO 5650 PM.
………………………..FROM RS. 5651 TO RS. 6010 PM.
…………………………ABOVE RS. 6010 PM.
IT IS STRANGE ENOUGH THAT INSPITE OF THE ABOVE
CORRECTION EFFECTIVE FROM 1.5.2005 IN DA THESE RETIREED ARE
GETTING COMMUTATION AFTER TAKING IN TO ACCOUNT ONLY 1616 INDEX.
THE RETIREES UNDER THIS GROUP ARE GETTING DA WITH
100 PERCENT NEUTERALISATION.
THERE ARE TWO SUB CATEGORIES UNDER THIS GROUP.
FIRST FROM 1.11.2002 TO 30.05.2005 AND THE OTHER IS FROM 1.05.2005
ONWARDS.
RETIREES UNDER THIS GROUP are DRAWN DA ON THEIR
PENSION ON 1684 INDEX FROM 1.11.2002 TO 30.04.2005. THE SAME WAS
CORRECTED ONLY WITH EFFECT FROM 1.05.2005. NO ARREARS WERE ALLOWED
FROM 1.11.2002 TO 30.04.2005. ABOUT 30 MONTHS PENSION ARREARS WAS
FORFIETED BY THE STATE. STRANGE FURTHER THAT THOUGH PENSIONERS GOT
DIFFERENCE OF BASIC PENSION FROM 1.05.2005 BUT EVEN THEY DID NOT
GET DIFFERENCE OF COMMUTED PORTION.
THERE IS NO UPDATION OF PENSION IN THIS GROUP EVEN
AFTER LAPSE OF LONG 9 YEARS.
THESE RETIREES ARE GETTING DA WITH 100 PERCENT
NEUTERALISATION OVER 2836 INDEX.
THESE RETIREES ARE AGAIN SUB DIVIDED IN TWO SUB
HEADS/CAGES.
FIRST FROM 1.11.2007 TO 26.4.2010 AND OTHER WHO
WERE IN BANKS SERVICE AS ON 27.04.2010.
UNDER THIS GROUP THE OPTEES WERE ALSO ASKED TO
CONTRIBUTE SOME PENALTY TO FUND THE GAP IN PENSION FUNDING. THE
GROUP SHOULD THANKS TO THE SMALL NUMBER OF BANKERS OF CANARA BANK
WHO FILED THE CASE IN MADRAS HIGH COURT AND DURING
PENDENCY PARTIES ACCEPTED THEIR MISUNDERSTANDING AND THE GREAT
IDEA OF PENALTY WAS THROWN AWAY WITHIN A NIGHT OF 10 HOURS.
THERE WERE RETIREES WHO COULD NOT OPT PENSION ON
PREVIOUS OCCASION DUE TO INCLUSION OF REGULATION 22.4.B. IN
PENSION REGULATIONS.
SUCH BANKERS WERE ALSO DIVIDED IN TO TWO TYPE OF
CELLS. FIRST WHO WAS IN BANKS SERVICE AS ON 27.07.2010 -THE DAY OF
NEW PENSION PACT INKED ON 27.04.2010. SECONDLY RETIREES WHO WERE
RETIRED UP TO 26.04.2010. FIRST CATEGORY WAS NAMED RETIRED BANKERS
AND THE OTHER WAS NAMED EXISTING EMPLOYEES.
NOW THE SETTLEMENT CAME INTO PICTURE AND DIRECTED
THAT RETIREES WHO OPTS FOR PENSION NOW WILL HAVE TO PAY 56
PERCENT OF CPF AS PENALTY. AND EXISTING EMPLOYEES WHO OPT FOR
PENSION SCHEME NOW WILL HAVE TO PAY TO THE STATE 2.8 TIMES OF PAY
OF THE REVISED PAY FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER. 2007.
THEY ARE IN EMPLOYMENT. THERE IS NOT ANY
JUSTIFICATION FOR ASKING ENTRY LOAD OF 2.8 TIMES OF REVISED PAY
FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMVER, 2007.
THEY HAVE NOT TASTED EVEN THE TASTE OF BANKS
CONTRIBUTION REFUND FOR A SECOND.
I HUMBLY PRAY TO ALL CONCERNED PARTIES TO START
MEANINGFUL Talks for redressing the pension dispute. all the
pensioners are senior citizens and ambassadors of the banks .
With warm greetings and regards
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dkk15@rediffmail.com
Dear Sirs, Questioning the need for updation of bankers’ pension is akin to asking why the serving bank men need a bipartite. The pensioners need the updation for their very survival with decency. When I joined the bank as a clerk in 1973 with a starting basic of Rs.170/-p.m., the Bank deducted 8.33% of my basic pay towards Provident Fund. On every subsequent bipartite settlement the Bank rightfully deducted 8.33% of Basic Pay towards PF only on the updated Basic Pay. Even after the pension scheme was introduced in 1995, the Bank deducted 8.33% of my Basic pay on the updated bipartites, promising me pension. This continued till I got my retirement under VRS 2000. But after my retirement, i.e. when the Bank started paying me back, the updation of my Basic Pension was stopped abruptly, again for reasons known only to the Unions/Associations and the IBA although they were entering into various bi-partite agreements . To deceive and to fool the Pensioners a new concept of Joint Note was introduced. There was updation when I had to pay the Bank and when the Bank started paying there is no updation. Is the updation in Bank is a one way traffic? It is puzzling that when there is updation in DA for the pensioners as like serving employess then why there is no updation in Basic as like serving employees. As per the Thesars Legend , pension is - a regular payment to a person that is intended to allow them to subsist without working. I am still wondering whether this un- updated pension and the delayed updation in eligible DA will allow the Pensioners to subsist without working. Again, Pensioners are updated with the increased Dearness Allowance as like as the serving employees although the DA increase is in once in 6 months (not once in 3 months as paid to the serving employees) for reasons best known to the Unions/ associations. The price of food articles etc. increases for everyone at the same time, whether you are a serving employee or a retired pensioner.. My grocer does not wait for another 3 months even if I request him that as a pensioner I am getting my increased Dearness Allowance with a delay of 3 months. For him all are same whether you are a serving bank employee or a retired bank employee. If the Banks feel that they are earning profits only for writing off the loans of the willful defaulters or as per the directions of the Govt. and to hand over the profit to the Govt but are unable to pay their staff like what the Govt. servants are getting, they should have stopped cajoling us for VRS in 2000. Both retired and serving Bank employees have become a laughing stock before the Govt. employees. It is my humble opinion that the present set up of Unions /Associations which are working against the interest of even the serving employees, on whose subscription they survive, may further deceive the pensioners with their Joint Notes in future Bipartites. Supreme Court may be the pensioners’ last resort. D.Karunakaran - dkk15@rediffmail.com |
anil.renu.gupta@gmail.com
We are making all our efforts to revise the pension on the revision of settlement,but no-body care for those Sr.Citizen who contributed their services in banking industry.
Every bank is paying
Ex gratia Rs.1000/- PM to
pre-1986 retiree spouse.Probably
less than payment in NAREGA (Government of India Scheme.Please
look towards few numbers and helpless people also.
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